kann mir mal jemand genau erklären was mit "Water-Boardening" gemeint ist? anscheinend scheinen darunter alle Gefangenen zu "zerbrechen"...

der Typ von den Republikanern (mir fällt gerade der Name nicht ein), welcher in Vietnam selbst gefoltert wurde und sich seither wehement gegen die Methoden der CIA einsetzt hat kürzlich auch gesagt er würde lieber stark geschlagen werden als diese Methode des "Water Boardenings" über sich ergehen lassen zu müssen...

danke für die Antwort
füx  

also seit der Bericht rauskam, der besagte, dass Bush Al-Jazeera bombardieren wollte, geben die ziemlich Gas auf ihrer Homepage...hehe; aber wo sie recht haben, haben sie recht...


The U.S. media is ignoring the torture carried by U.S. military forces. Although the military reports provide a full description of the suffering the prisoners face, the U.S. media refuses to tackle the issue. Prisoners are tortured to death under the supervision of the U.S. forces.

The U.S. Army has tortured and abused prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo. The treatment of prisoners in U.S. custody is the ultimate violation of the international law. Various prisoners have been reported dead as a result of abuse. Although these reports turn to be true, the soldiers held responsible don’t get the punishment deserved for such crimes.

Moreover, the female soldier involved in Abu Ghraib abuse scandal in Iraq got imprisoned for six months only.

Some of Guantanamo detainees were sentenced to death without being interrogated, or sued for their crimes. Others in Afghanistan faced torture for days and sometimes they are deprived of water and food till they die.

The following military autopsy was provided by American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU): "Final Autopsy Report: DOD 003164, (Detainee) died as a result of asphyxia (lack of oxygen to the brain) due to strangulation as evidenced by the recently fractured hyoid bone in the neck and soft tissue hemorrhage extending downward to the level of the right thyroid cartilage".

"Autopsy revealed bone fracture, rib fractures, contusions in mid abdomen, back and buttocks extending to the left flank, abrasions, lateral buttocks. Contusions, back of legs and knees; abrasions on knees, left fingers and encircling to left wrist; Lacerations and superficial cuts, right 4th and 5th fingers. Also, blunt force injuries, predominately recent contusions (bruises) on the torso and lower extremities. Abrasions on left wrist are consistent with use of restraints. No evidence of defense injuries or natural disease. Manner of death is homicide. Whitehorse Detainment Facility, Nasiriyah, Iraq."

According to the ACLU website, on April 5, 2004 a 27 year-old Iraqi prisoner-died while being questioned by Navy Seals, in Mosul, in Iraq. The autopsy report stated that “hypothermia” is one of the reasons behind his death. When he was in prison he was exposed to various ways of torture; he was “hooded, flex-cuffed, sleep deprived and subjected to hot and cold environmental conditions, including the use of cold water on his body and hood.”

Another prisoner was reported dead as a result of “asphyxia and blunt force injuries.” He also died while being questioned by the U.S. forces.

The ACLU website includes a huge number of reports that mention in details the torture prisoners face under the U.S. captivity. The reports include evidence of abuse cases in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Executive Director of ACLU, Anthony Romero, asserted that the U.S. resort to interrogation methods that cause death for prisoners. ACLU attorney, Amrit Sing, also said that the ACLU reports are a clear evidence for the abuses U.S. forces carry out against prisoners while interrogated.

In April 2003, the ACLU issued a report which stated that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld allowed the use of "environmental manipulation" in Guantánamo Bay “as an interrogation technique.” Moreover, in September 2003, it was reported that Lt. Gen. Sanchez allowed the use of the same technique in Iraq. The death of those tortured in Iraq, Guantánamo, and Afghanistan is the responsibility of high-ranking officials in Bush’s administration.

The ACLU on October 25, 2005, issued a press release concerning the deaths of tortured prisoners the U.S. holds. The content of the report was released after that by The Associated Press and the United Press International wire services. This allowed the report to be accessible for the U.S. corporate media. Research proved that 95% of everyday press in U.S. didn’t pay any attention to the miserable facts in the report.

The Los Angeles Times referred to the report content as “allegations.” Newspapers such as, Bangor Daily News, Maine, Telegraph-Herald, Dubuque Iowa, Charleston Gazette, Avocate, Baton Rouge, and others covered the story. While the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Seattle Times mentioned some items of the report inside Iraq news stories.

Various news-based websites such as Common Dreams, Truthout, New Standard, and Science Daily published the ACLU report online.

This shows the very slight attention the U.S. media gave for the cases of prisoners’ torture. According to prisonplanet.com, “a Nexus-Lexus search November 30, 2005 of the major papers in the U.S. using the word torture turned up over 1,000 stories in the last 30 days. None of these included the ACLU report as supporting documentation on the issue.”

The Americans will not be able to recognize the seriousness of the torture prisons as long as the U.S. media is ignoring it. The extent of torture in these prisons has gone beyond the human imagination. The only source for Americans now to find out about these is the internet because the U.S. media delivers the news it wants to deliver.

Hiding facts from the American people resulted in them being accused of sharing the responsibility of what is happening with the U.S. administration.

 

Dec. 5, 2005 — Two CIA secret prisons were operating in Eastern Europe until last month when they were shut down following Human Rights Watch reports of their existence in Poland and Romania.

Current and former CIA officers speaking to ABC News on the condition of confidentiality say the United States scrambled to get all the suspects off European soil before Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrived there today. The officers say 11 top al Qaeda suspects have now been moved to a new CIA facility in the North African desert.

The CIA declines to comment, but current and former intelligence officials tell ABC News that 11 top al Qaeda figures were all held at one point on a former Soviet air base in one Eastern European country. Several of them were later moved to a second Eastern European country.

All but one of these 11 high-value al Qaeda prisoners were subjected to the harshest interrogation techniques in the CIA's secret arsenal, the so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" authorized for use by about 14 CIA officers and first reported by ABC News on Nov. 18.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice today avoided directly answering the question of secret prisons in remarks made on her departure for Europe, where the issue of secret prisons and secret flights has caused a furor.

Without mentioning any country by name, Rice acknowledged special handling for certain terrorists.

"The captured terrorists of the 21st century do not fit easily into traditional systems of criminal or military justice, which were designed for different needs. We have had to adapt," Rice said.

The CIA has used a small fleet of private jets to move top al Qaeda suspects from Afghanistan and the Middle East to Eastern Europe, where Human Rights Watch has identified Poland and Romania as the countries that housed secret sites.

But Polish Defense Minister Radoslaw Sikorski told ABC Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross today: "My president has said there is no truth in these reports."

Ross asked: "Do you know otherwise, sir, are you aware of these sites being shut down in the last few weeks, operating on a base under your direct control?"

Sikorski answered, "I think this is as much as I can tell you about this."

In Romania, where the secret prison was possibly at a military base visited last year by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, the new Romanian prime minister said today there is no evidence of a CIA site but that he will investigate.

Sources tell ABC that the CIA's secret prisons have existed since March 2002 when one was established in Thailand to house the first important al Qaeda target captured. Sources tell ABC that the approval for another secret prison was granted last year by a North African nation.

Sources tell ABC News that the CIA has a related system of secretly returning other prisoners to their home country when they have outlived their usefulness to the United States.

These same sources also tell ABC News that U.S. intelligence also ships some "unlawful combatants" to countries that use interrogation techniques harsher than any authorized for use by U.S. intelligence officers. They say that Jordan, Syria, Morocco and Egypt were among the nations used in order to extract confessions quickly using techniques harsher than those authorized for use by U.S. intelligence officers. These prisoners were not necessarily citizens of those nations.

According to sources directly involved in setting up the CIA secret prison system, it began with the capture of Abu Zabayda in Pakistan. After treatment there for gunshot wounds, he was whisked by the CIA to Thailand where he was housed in a small disused warehouse on an active airbase. There, his cell was kept under 24-hour closed circuit TV surveillance and his life-threatening wounds were tended to by a CIA doctor especially sent from Langley headquarters to assure Abu Zubaydah was given proper care, sources said. Once healthy, he was slapped, grabbed, made to stand long hours in a cold cell and finally handcuffed and strapped feet up to a water board until after .31 seconds he begged for mercy and began to cooperate.

While in the secret facilities in Eastern Europe, Abu Zubaydah and his fellow captives were fed breakfasts that included yogurt and fruit, lunches that included steamed vegetables and beans, and dinners that included meat or chicken and more vegetables and rice, sources say. In exchange for cooperation, prisoners were sometimes given hard candies, deserts and chocolates. Abu Zubaydah was partial to Kit Kats, the same treat Saddam Hussein fancied in his captivity.

"One of the difficult issues in this new kind of conflict is what to do with captured individuals who we know or believe to be terrorists," Rice said. "The individuals come from many countries and are often captured far from their original homes. Among them are those who are effectively stateless, owing allegiance only to the extremist cause of transnational terrorism. Many are extremely dangerous. And some have information that may save lives, perhaps even thousands of lives."

Sources tell ABC News that Jordanians, Egyptians, Moroccans, Tunisians, Algerians, Saudis, Pakistanis, Uzbekistanis and Chinese citizens have been returned to their nations' intelligence services after initial debriefing by U.S. intelligence officers. Rice said renditions such as these are vital to the war on terror. "Rendition is a vital tool in combating transnational terrorism," she said.

Of the 12 high value targets housed by the CIA, only one did not require water boarding before he talked. Ramzi bin al-Shibh broke down in tears after he was walked past the cell of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the operational planner for Sept. 11. Visibly shaken, he started to cry and became as cooperative as if he had been tied down to a water board, sources said


füx  

"water-boarding," or dripping water into a wet cloth over a suspect's face, which can feel like drowning; and threatening to bring in more-brutal interrogators from other nations.  

verstehs noch nicht so...es gab Bericht, dass die CIA-Verhörspezialisten das ganze selbst ausprobiert haben und es durchschnittlich 19 Sekunden "ausgehalten" haben sollen...der Eine Tpy von Pos. 228 war 31 Sekunden "standhaft"...

ich kann doch locker über 1 Minute die Luft anhalten wenns sein muss beim tauchen...???

tscheck ich nicht so ganz...

füx  

Waterboarding

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Waterboarding ist eine Methode der Folter, die heute nach vielfältigen Berichten in verschiedenen Staaten angewendet wird. Beim Opfer wird dabei durch Ausnutzen von Reflexen physiologisch zwingend der Eindruck unmittelbar drohenden Erstickens hervorgerufen, obwohl eine reale Todesgefahr nicht besteht. Dem Opfer wird eine Plastiktüte über den Kopf gestülpt, die dann mit Wasser übergossen wird, so dass es glaubt zu ertrinken. Laut Berichten bricht der Widerstand der weitaus meisten Opfer in weniger als einer Minute.

Waterboarding gehört zu den Folter-Methoden, die keine körperlichen Spuren hinterlassen – Beweise sind daher schwer zu erbringen.

Im Laufe des Jahres 2005 berichteten internationale Medien mehrfach, dass Waterboarding eine routinemäßige Methode der CIA und anderer US-Regierungsbehörden bei der Vernehmung von Terrorverdächtigen ist.

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Beste Grüße vom Gesellen    

 

danke, aber so richtig versteh ichs noch immer nicht...ich stülp mir jetzt nen Plastiksack übern Kopf und außen rinnt dann das Wasser runter (laut der Beschreibung..); warum nicht einfach die Luft anhalten?

mh...

ist ja auch nicht so wichtig; aber interessieren würds mich irgendwie...

füx  

aufhältst. ich denke mal in nem kerker, wo nur bewaffnete amis um dich rumstehen, würdest du au net lang durchhalten.  

kann mir gut vorstellen, dass das auf die Psyche geht. Durch das Wasser dürfte die Plastiktüte ziemlich eng an den Kopf drücken (Luftmangel) und die Kälte des Wassers dürfte das Gefühl von "unter Wasser" vermitteln. Wenn Du einen Schwall von kaltem Wasser über den Kopf bekommst, dann schnappst Du doch eigentlich erstmal nach Luft, oder??? Geht mir jedenfalls so unter der Dusche. Wenn ich dann auch noch keine Luft bekomme, könnte ich mir schon vorstellen, dass ich da panisch werde.

Beste Grüße vom Gesellen    

 

und poste Deine Erfahrungen...:-)
Also ich kann mir schon vortsellen das das sehr "unangenehm" ist!
Ich denke wenn man das gefühl hat zu ersticken, bekommt man sofort Panik und man
kann nix dagegen machen. Ein Reflex...  

denke jetzt auch, dass es irgendwie mit körpereigenen Reflexen zusammenhängt...hab bislang "Water-Boardening" irgendwie mit "ertrinken" verbunden; hat aber eher etwas mit "ersicken" zu tun...ist ja irgendwie dasselbe, aber ich dachte bislang die Gefangenen werden einfach so lange mit dem Kopf unter Wasser gehalten, bis sie glauben zu "ertrinken/ersticken"...deswegen kamen mir die Zeitangaben so "gering" vor...


allein der Gedanke, dass so etwas Menschen angetan wird macht mich wütend...(auch wenn es sich um vermeintliche Terroristen handelt); Folter ist für mich persönlich in keinster Weise zu rechtfertigen...


und Frau Condy scheint auch schon etwas andere Töne anzuschlagen...klingt ja schon wie ein kleines "Schuldeingeständnis"...


BERLIN (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Tuesday that Washington would work to rectify any mistakes it made in its war on terror, but declined to comment on the alleged CIA abduction of a German man.

"When and if mistakes are made, we work very hard and as quickly as possible to rectify them," Rice told a news conference in Berlin.

She noted the case of German Khaled el-Masri, allegedly abducted by the CIA to Afghanistan, was subject to litigation in the United States and declined to comment on it.


 

Die US-Außenministerin hat bei ihrem Deutschland-Besuch Fehler der USA in der CIA-Affäre nicht mehr ausgeschlossen.
Wenn im Zusammenhang mit geheimen Gefangenentransporten der CIA Fehler gemacht worden seien, wollten die USA sie „schnell korrigieren", sagte Rice am Dienstag nach einem Treffen mit Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel (CDU) in Berlin.

Rice hofft auf „richtigen Weg“

Ohne detailliert auf den Fall des entführten Deutschen Khaled el Masri einzugehen, sagte die US-Außenministerin weiter, sie erwarte, dass diese Frage „auf dem richtigen Weg“ in Deutschland und gegebenenfalls auch in den USA „gelöst wird“.

Rice: USA ein „Rechtsstaat“

Rice betonte, sie habe gegenüber der Bundeskanzlerin ihre Anmerkungen vom Montag zu den CIA-Aktivitäten bekräftigt. Die USA seien „ein Rechtsstaat", der seinen eigenen Gesetzen und den „internationalen Verpflichtungen nachkommen“ werde.

Folter-Vorwürfe wieder dementiert

Den Vorwurf, die CIA habe mutmaßliche Terroristen im Verhör gefoltert, wies sie erneut zurück. Die Vereinigten Staaten praktizierten keine Folter, weil dies gegen US-Gesetze und internationale Abkommen verstieße. Allerdings seien Geheimdienstaktivitäten „ein Schlüssel zum Erfolg“ im Kampf gegen den internationalen Terrorismus, fügte Rice hinzu.

Merkel beauftragt Steinmeier mit Bericht

Als Konsequenz aus den umstrittenen CIA-Aktivitäten in Deutschland soll nach dem Willen von Merkel nun ein detaillierter Bericht erstellt werden. Außenminister Frank-Walter Steinmeier (SPD) solle im Namen der früheren Bundesregierung speziell die Entführung des Deutschen el Masri durch die CIA darlegen, sagte Merkel nach dem Gespräch mit Rice.

Nicht öffentliche Diskussion

Der frühere Kanzleramtsminister solle dem Parlamentarischen Kontrollgremium Bericht erstatten, sagte die Kanzlerin. Dadurch werde gewährleistet, dass einerseits nicht alle geheimdienstlichen Erkenntnisse öffentlich diskutiert werden, andererseits aber transparente Information zu dem Fall bereitgestellt werden.

Fünf Monate Verhör nach Verwechslung

Nach einem Bericht der Zeitung „Washington Post“ wurde der damalige Bundesinnenminister Otto Schily (SPD) im Mai 2004 vom ehemaligen US-Botschafter Daniel Coats über die Verschleppung des deutschen Staatsangehörigen el Masri informiert und um Stillschweigen gebeten. Der gebürtige Libanese aus Neu-Ulm soll wegen einer Verwechslung mit einem Terrorverdächtigen von der CIA nach Afghanistan geflogen und dort fünf Monate lang verhört worden sein.

 

LOL; nur glaubts eben keiner mehr...


U.S. Doesn't Condone Torture of Captive Terrorists
American Forces Press Service


WASHINGTON, Dec. 5, 2005 – The United States is a law-abiding nation and never has transported captured terrorists to another country to be tortured as part of the interrogation process, the senior U.S. diplomat said today.
"Torture is a term that is defined by law. We rely on our law to govern our operations. The United States does not permit, tolerate or condone torture under any circumstances," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters at Andrews Air Force Base, Md., as she prepared to depart on a four-day European trip to Germany, Romania, Ukraine and Belgium.

Rice rebutted recent news reports alleging that the United States has transported captive terrorists to other countries to be tortured in order to exact confessions.

"The United States does not transport, and has not transported, detainees from one country to another for the purpose of interrogation using torture," Rice said.

She also said the United States doesn't use the airports or airspace of other countries to transport terrorist detainees to other places for the purpose of torture.

"The United States has not transported anyone and will not transport anyone to a country when we believe he will be tortured," Rice said. "Where appropriate, the United States seeks assurances that transferred persons will not be tortured."

Rice said she supports the practice of rendition, or the transport of detainees from the point of their capture to their home countries or to other locations where they can be questioned, held or brought to justice.

"Renditions take terrorists out of action and save lives," Rice said. For decades, she said, the United States and other countries have used renditions to move captive terrorists.

"Rendition is a vital tool in combating transnational terrorism. Its use is not unique to the United States or to the current administration," Rice said.

Rice said rendition brought 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind Ramzi Youssef to the United States, where he now serves a life sentence for his crimes. Rendition also brought the notorious terrorist Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as "Carlos the Jackal," to France for trial after his 1994 capture in Sudan, Rice recalled. Today, Ramírez Sánchez spends his days in a French prison, she said.

 

Könntet Ihr bitte die Überschrift von
diesem Thread löschen,
weil sie
- gegen den Geist der Völkerverständigung
und
- gegen 130 StGB (Volksverhetzung) verstößt.
- Zum anderen ist eine derart pauschalierende Aussage,
die ein Volk mit einer Kollektivaussage belegt,
auch logisch unhaltbar und dümmlich.

Das hatten wir doch schon mal:
Die D. waren alle Nazis und sind Schuld für
die Greuel der Nazis und die ca. 55 Mio Kriegstoten.

Wollt Ihr von Ariva etwa als Finanzboard mit
internationalem Flair solche Aussagen dulden?
Siehe:
http://www.ariva.de/board/239371


 

der rest stimmt nämlich.  

versuche es bitte auch mit dem klaus-detlev - bitte...







:-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))9  

Thread-Überschrift nur anschließen... auch im Lichte der Entscheidung des Hamburger Gerichts im Fall Heise.




MfG
kiiwii

 

die überschrift muß weg!

stattdessen muß da stehen:

Scheiß US-Regierung oder Scheiß Busch.  

 

scheiß "US-Regierung" und ändert was...da sieht man wieder mal, dass vereinter Widerstand doch etwas bewirken kann...erst durch die weltweit schlechte Presse hat die US-Regierung nachgegeben...und das ist gut so!


KIEV (Reuters) - The United States said on Wednesday it had changed its policy on interrogations of detainees, putting a worldwide ban on U.S. personnel subjecting prisoners to cruelty, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said.

"As a matter of U.S. policy, the United States' obligations under the CAT (Convention against Torture), which prohibits cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment -- those obligations extend to U.S. personnel wherever they are, whether they are in the United States or outside of the United States," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said.

U.S. officials said her comments, made during a trip to Ukraine, marked a policy shift toward the international convention on torture. It follows strong pressure from Europe and the U.S. Congress.

Previously, the Bush administration had interpreted the convention as only applying to U.S. territory.

Human rights groups have said the United States has exploited that loophole to mistreat prisoners in places such as Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay.

The move is also an important concession in U.S. domestic politics where Senator John McCain, a Republican from Arizona and a former prisoner of war who was mistreated in Vietnam, has pressed the administration to close the loophole.

Until Wednesday, the administration, led by Vice-President Dick Cheney, had resisted legislation proposed by McCain that was widely backed in Congress.

 

 

fürchte ich. :)  

wird mir von Tag zu Tag sympathischer diese Seite; decken schonungslos die Wahrheit auf...

Rumors have been circulating that Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) could be tapped to replace the U.S. Secretary of Defense DONALD RUMSFELD.

Following yesterday’s speech by the Secretary of Defense, in which he painted a fake optimistic picture of Iraq's future, Senator John Kerry issued a statement on RAW STORY saying:

“Secretary RUMSFELD today sent dangerous mixed signals about Iraq. Does the Defense Secretary really just throw up his hands and accept that on-going attacks are inevitable in Iraq for the foreseeable future? Is he now admitting that the BUSH Administration's mistakes have made Iraq what it was not before the war, a haven for ‘terrorists’?

“The PRESIDENT owes it to our troops serving in IRAQ to remove Secretary Rumsfeld and replace him at the Pentagon with a Defense Secretary who understands the situation on the ground in Iraq and who will advance, not undermine, American values around the world.

“Brave American troops are serving heroically under very difficult circumstances. Time and again, they have been put in greater danger by the mistakes of this Secretary of Defense who refuses to tell the truth about what is happening in IRAQ and pushes aside anyone who dares speak truth to power. The mistakes are stacked one upon another. The Pentagon is reported to be paying Iraqi newspapers to carry ghostwritten news stories, undermining American credibility. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff had to publicly correct Secretary Rumsfeld because he didn't think American troops had an obligation to stop torture.

“We need a fresh start at the Pentagon for the good of American troops, so brave Americans stop paying the terrible price of this Defense Secretary's mistakes.”

MR. RUMSFELD, who made his remarks during a speech at John Hopkins' School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, claimed that the American occupying troops are making magnificent progress in IRAQ , and that the development achieved cannot be measured by the level of bloodshed or the number of daily attacks.

His speech coincided with the Pentagon’s announcement of appointing a retired four-star general to lead a taskforce to seek solutions regarding the threat posed by improvised explosive devices (IED), rebels are currently using against the U.S invaders.

The Secretary of defense came after a week long struggle by the AMERICAN PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH to shore up declining support for the IRAQ war among after the latest uncover of a new U.S. scandal involving bribing Iraqi journalists publish fake news stories in favor of the U.S.-led occupation in Iraq.

 

White house says that the American President George W. BUSH is concerned about the reports which accuse the U.S. military of pushing the Iraqi media to mislead people by giving a good image about the situation in IRAQ.

Experts say that Bush should be aware that such misleading information will repeat what happened in Vietnam. The “misinformation campaigns” which appeared during the Vietnam War made people lose trust in government and the military; and it was very hard to re-gain this trust after the war.

Tom Rosenstiel of the Project for Excellence in Journalism, said "All wars are fought in part for hearts and minds, but the question governments face is how to do it.” He added that during the Vietnam War the Johnson administration deceived the journalists and the people to the extent that afterwards both stopped believing what the other side says. He asserts that “bribing and misleading the fledgling Iraqi press will undermine trust in that press.” This will automatically cause journalists to lose trust in the government.

Senior military spokesman, Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch., said while in Baghdad last week, he asked whether the program undercuts American credibility. Lynch answered quoting one of Al-Qaeda leaders saying, "Remember, half the battle is the battlefield of the media."

Harvard Media Analyst, Alex Jones, said that if the Bush administration wants to change the way people portrait the media supervised by the U.S. forces then the best way is through changing the current situation in Iraq which they will never be able to portrait correctly in the media.

If the U.S. government believes that the stories broadcast and published in the media will change what people think about the situation in IRAQ, then this is a useless interpretation. This would show that the U.S. military is naive, said Jones. Misleading the American nation through the media which is sponsored by the Bush administration is only widening the gap between the people and the administration.

Jim Murphy, executive producer of The CBS Evening News, opposes this view. He doesn’t believe that “the military's propaganda program, first reported last week by The Los Angeles Times, will affect relations between the media and the administration and the U.S. military.”

He added that their mission now will be to re-gain people’s trust in the military and the administration and examine the creditability of the information before being published or

broadcast. However, he said that, giving the foreign news false information, they can do nothing about it. This is a technique that militaries use in the times of war.

Erik Sorenson, a veteran network and cable news producer, said that if anyone believes that the journalism provides the truth about every piece of news then he is “naïve.”

James Rada, a Howard University journalism professor, says that at the time of Vietnam the press provided the misleading service to the government for free. The government didn’t have to pay the press for that.

He said that “many of the war correspondents, especially during World War II, were already de facto press agents for the military. They saw the troops as 'our boys' and they weren't going to do anything to jeopardize their mission or undermine their morale."

The Iraqi propaganda campaign- as named by Paul Levinson, a Fordham University communications professor, is only a very negative point for Journalism.  

According to USATODAY.com, “ at precisely the time when people back home are questioning the journalism that led up to the war effort, at precisely the time when we want information as accurate as possible about the road ahead in Iraq, these stories call into question the legitimacy of both the military news and journalism," added Levinson.

He said that the reports might be true, but it still hides some of the facts that take place in IRAQ.

Rosenstiel views that the U.S. government “succeeded historically in presenting America's ideals to the world through programs like Voice of America and Radio Free Europe.”

These programs are sold to government radio programs. They hire “journalists aspiring to the highest professional standards.”

He concluded that “campaigns in which news outlets are paid to slant the news have never been proven particularly sophisticated or successful. They tend, instead, to have been the easy and direct last resort of people who were frustrated at handling the issue the hard way."

BUSH administration misled the people not only about IRAQ war, but also about the Afghan war. Various reports were broadcasted in independent media channels, where senior-ranking officials announced one thing and after a very short while they announce at the same channel a contradicting announcement.

For instance, Vice President Dick Cheney announced in one time that “under the President's leadership we closed down the training camps in Afghanistan where ‘terrorists’ trained to kill Americans."

Surprisingly, afterwards he warned the Americans of “an imminent attack on the U.S. homeland from ‘terrorists’ operating in Afghanistan.”

And the series of lies and misleading information continues. Lies about the condition in Iraq, lies about the abuses in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Guantanamo, and lies about the real reasons for invading IRAQ.

 

man könnte ja au einfach die überschrift in ami-slang übersetzen: "the motherf*cking us thread!"

mfg ds