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02.12.15 10:11

35332 Postings, 6940 Tage BackhandSmashSteinhoff International Holdings N.V.

Rechtsform Naamloze vennootschap
ISIN NL0011375019
Gründung 1. Juli 1964[1]
Sitz Amsterdam, Niederlande
Leitung Markus Jooste[2]
Mitarbeiter 91.000 (2014/15)[3]
Umsatz 134,868 Mrd. Rand (2014/15)[3]
Branche Einzelhandel/Möbelindustrie


Möbelhersteller und Möbelhändler bei uns gelistet,...

hm mal sehen was das wieder ist, kennt das jemand ?  
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28.11.23 11:49

139 Postings, 767 Tage megasteiniUhrzeit, nicht Wecker.

Liebe(r) Uhrzeit, wach auf. Die Firma Steinhoff gibt es nicht mehr. Was willst du da noch handeln?
Mich hat es gewundert das nach dem Stichtag noch gehandelt  wurde. Und natürlich gefreut, hatte mein Geld schon abgeschrieben und bekam doch noch was dafür.  

29.11.23 11:31

1643 Postings, 4398 Tage Sealchen...

Leute das Thema Steinhoff ist erledigt... schließt damit ab.. das Depot hat bereits für euch abgeschlossen und das Thema begraben!

Von CVRs werdet ihr nie was sehen geschweige denn irgendeine Auszahlung bekommen... auf eine Börsenrückkehr zu hoffen ist noch verrückter.. die bürden sich nicht nochmal den Stress mit den Aktionären auf... die Gläubiger versuchen zu retten was von ihren Milliarden noch zu retten ist und die Aktionäre haben das negative Eigenkapital realisiert...

Damit jungs neue Ziele fürs neue Jahr... neue Aktien neue chancen neues Glück!  

30.11.23 14:11

465 Postings, 341 Tage Jaap PeerSteinhoff scheme to avoid tax

NOTE: Who was in charge with these tax avoidance schemes? Yes, Louis du Preez and Theodore de Klerk!

Sars penalises former Pepkor CEO Pieter Erasmus R300m for tax avoidance
Former CEO of Pepkor Holdings Ltd, Pieter Erasmus, was unsuccessful in his application to scrap a decision by the commissioner of the SA Revenue Service (Sars), that he was involved in alleged tax avoidance.

The matter, which was instead scrapped from the Western Cape High Court roll, detailed how Erasmus was party to an alleged impermissible tax avoidance arrangement, in terms of the Income Tax Act. He was found to be consequently liable for about R300 million.

Erasmus was a director and shareholder of Pepkor and numerous other companies. These included Treemo (Pty) Ltd, and a beneficiary of the Black River View Trust, and the Trust in turn was also a shareholder in Treemo.

According to the judgment, on March 25, 2015, Treemo’s directors approved a capital distribution to Erasmus of R167 696 542 and cash distributions of about R1.22 billion and R1.2m.

In addition, approval was granted for the payment of a cash distribution to the Trust of about R8.7m. These distributions were paid out two days later.

The judgment says: “Some four years later, on March 2019 20, Erasmus was requested to provide the commissioner with a detailed explanation and documentation pertaining to the various transactions that had taken place between Treemo, the Trust and himself.

“This was between the 2015 and 2018 tax years. In the response, which he provided on April 30 2019, Erasmus revealed that during December 2014 he had sold 5.5 million shares which he held in Pepkor with a market value of R510m.

At the same time, he had also sold redeemable preference shares which he held in Newshelf, which had a market value of R750m, to Treemo, in exchange for shares in it.”

According to the court judgment, Erasmus claimed that the distributions had not been disclosed because of an “oversight” by his accountants, but that no tax consequences flowed from this as they were exempt from tax.

Judge Mark Sher said: “In the circumstances this constituted an impermissible tax avoidance arrangement as contemplated in s 80A of the Act. It involved ‘round-trip financing’ between the various transacting parties which had no significant effect on their business risks or net cash flows and had no apparent commercial purpose other than to create a tax benefit for the applicant and the Trust, which they would not otherwise have obtained.”

Sars spokesperson, Anton Fisher, said: “Sars notes the judgment and will decide on a course of action later.” Enquiries to Erasmus’s attorneys were not answered by deadline on Tuesday.  

30.11.23 16:24

11230 Postings, 3643 Tage Berliner_Löschung

Zeitpunkt: 18.12.23 13:12
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Regelverstoß



30.11.23 16:28

465 Postings, 341 Tage Jaap PeerSteinhoff: a repeated history

'A subsequent investigation into Steinhoff revealed, among other things, that:

  • for years, Steinhoff executives had structured and implemented transactions that had the result of substantially inflating the profit and asset values of the Company;

  • Steinhoff entered into fictitious and/or irregular transactions with third parties that it falsely claimed were independent; and

  • Steinhoff created fictitious and/or irregular income in its holding companies and allocated that income to its underperforming operating companies.

Corporate misconduct & losses to shareholders

When listed companies withhold crucial information from their shareholders it often causes steep losses to investors'.


30.11.23 16:36

11230 Postings, 3643 Tage Berliner_Löschung

Zeitpunkt: 18.12.23 13:12
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Regelverstoß



30.11.23 16:40

465 Postings, 341 Tage Jaap PeerTrust in Steinhoff's Board

'This trust in Louis du Preez, Theodore de Klerk, as well as in management and directors, proved to be misplaced'.

As Warren Buffett has wisely counseled never invest in something you don’t trust.

'The Steinhoff board of directors, long viewed as one of the strongest and most dependable, has come under fierce criticism for failing to exercise its fiduciary duty. Describing the board, one fund manager stated that it was “ineffective, not independent'

It’s a buddy-buddy system, a bunch of people who know each other and have worked together for years. It strips them of their capacity to question things that don’t make sense.


Lastly, said Styan, the Steinhoff case – and other large investigations like VBS Mutual Bank – raises questions of capacity to investigate and prosecute financial crimes.

SARS has been tightening the screws on tax dodgers, while cases like VBS and Steinhoff have thrown the spotlight on large-scale financial crime.

Styan believes Steinhoff’s tumble did not occur in isolation.

“How much of our financial system is a deck of cards that can come tumbling down at any minute?” Styan asked.

Should a major clean-up ensue, he argued, it was unclear whether there would be capacity to follow through.

In addition to the “multitude” of investigations – financial and otherwise – facing the Hawks, Styan argued that state prosecutors would face a “huge imbalance” of capacity against billionaires with large legal teams and a wide range of resources at their disposal.


30.11.23 17:08

11230 Postings, 3643 Tage Berliner_Löschung

Zeitpunkt: 18.12.23 13:08
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Regelverstoß



01.12.23 16:24

465 Postings, 341 Tage Jaap PeerCVR's


'Sorry, but what you are doing is nothing but bashing and I am asking myself, how can someone bash the company whose valuable CVRshe is  owning?? '

'Now you are a happy CVR owner! Is that not great?!! '

'Without their hard work, which means sacrificing their own free time, for the company and for the former shareholders, you wouldn't have been able now to own these valuable CVRs'

To Berliner:

You constantly talks about 'CVR's' in all your posts, but what is a 'CVR'? Can you explain more about it, because I do not know what you mean by CVR's.

I am very surprised that you can have a look in my account! I will have a talk with my broker because I do not want any person to have a look in my account. But I am happy that you warned me about this. I will not report you for this forbidden action.....

Anyway: You said 'I am the owner of CVR's' ,but I can't find them in my account. Maybe you can help me? Many thanks.

By the way : I love Berliner Bols....


15.12.23 18:24

6049 Postings, 5122 Tage noenoughwas machen wir jetzt

mit dem Gelumpe im (meinem) Depot??! stinkt schon!!

isch doch richtig oder!?  

31.12.23 13:41

6822 Postings, 5024 Tage WatcherSGNun alles Gute für 2024 - Steinhoff hat 23 fertig

Schade das man Steinhoff von der Börse genommen hat. Hätte gerne noch 5 Jahre so weiter gehen können.

Nen Resplit von 1:100 hätte den Kurs wieder in die Richtung von 1€ gehoben und dann hätte man sicherlich weiter Spaß haben können. Die Hedgis hätten auch Spaß gehabt,....

Nun egal jetzt - der Ofen ist aus. Gibt nur "fast" wertlose CVR's die nicht gehandelt werden und hier ist tote Hose,...

die vielen Protagonisten sind verschwunden und viele haben sich aus dem Staub gemacht!

Wie wäre es mit einer After-Steinhoff Party in Frankfurt?,...

Haut rein und alles Gute für 2024.

Euer lieblings Gollum Watch :)

------------- Abbinder for my best Friends und Legal-Disclaimer ---------------------
TICK,... TACK,..... TICK,.... TACK,..... ist vorbei!

alles nur meine Meinung,... ;)
keine Kauf- oder Verkaufsempfehlung,.... ;)

PS: immer freundlich zueinander sein,..
PS2: habt Respekt gegenüber dem anderem,....

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03.01.24 14:38

11230 Postings, 3643 Tage Berliner_WatscherSG

Erst mal dir auch und allen alles Gute für 2024!

"Wie wäre es mit einer After-Steinhoff Party in Frankfurt?"

Glaubst du, dass noch einer Lust auf so eine Party hätte, nachdem derjenige viel Geld oder alles mit der Steinhoff Aktie verloren hat, nur weil sie auf den/die Falschen gehört hatten und  sich manipulieren lassen hatten? Vielleicht in 10 bis 20 Jahren, wenn die CVR-ler mal bisschen Dividende bekommen, wenn sie überhaupt mal was bekommen, was ich mir momentan schwer vorstellen kann. Eigentlich sehr traurig wie das Ganze hier endete, aber das Allerwichtigste ist die Gesundheit.  

29.01.24 10:04

51 Postings, 130 Tage WakovyLöschung

Zeitpunkt: 30.01.24 01:34
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Fehlender Mehrwert für andere Forenteilnehmer



29.01.24 15:06

51 Postings, 130 Tage WakovyLöschung

Zeitpunkt: 30.01.24 01:53
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Unbelegte Aussage



30.01.24 08:39

51 Postings, 130 Tage WakovyLöschung

Zeitpunkt: 30.01.24 21:57
Aktion: Löschung des Beitrages
Kommentar: Regelverstoß



16.02.24 17:15

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyeSteinhoff exec to be tried for €26m tax evasion.

As SA investigators continue to drag their feet in charging anyone connected to Steinhoff, another executive who worked for the retailer is set to go on trial in Germany, this time for tax evasion, reports Fin24.

The 64-year-old German executive, who has not yet been named, will go on trial from Monday for helping Steinhoff's European businesses evade €26m in tax between 2008 and 2012.

The Oldenburg Court, where the trial will take place, has not yet shared much information on the charges the accused faces.

Next week's case will be the third Steinhoff trial in Germany.

Courts there have already found two Steinhoff executives guilty of fraud, in a case that proved the disgraced furniture retailer had been cooking its books for years.

Dirk Schreiber and Siegmar Schmidt, who worked closely with ex-CEO Markus Jooste, were both convicted last year. Schreiber testified that Jooste had ordered him to falsify the retailer's accounts. He was sentenced to a three-and-a-half-year jail sentence with one year suspended. Schmidt received a wholly suspended sentence of two years.

Jooste was supposed to go to trial in the same Oldenburg courtroom where Schreiber and Schmidt appeared, but didn't arrive for the start of his case.

The court later issued a warrant for his arrest over his lawyer's objections that Jooste had been blocked from leaving SA.

German prosecutors then started working on an extradition request for the former Steinhoff head.

No extradition request has yet been filed. Steinhoff entered voluntary liquidation in June last year.

Its assets, liabilities and contracts have been transferred to its unlisted successor company, Ibex.

Quelle @


Not yet enough evidence against Markus Jooste to strip membership, says accounting body.
SAICA CEO Patricia Stock says the accounting body is still monitoring investigations by other regulatory bodies and will proceed once it has obtained sufficient evidence. Though Jooste resigned his SAICA membership in 2019, the accounting body refused to accept it at the time....

Quelle @  

20.02.24 11:25

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyeAngeklagter legt Geständnis ab...

Bilanzskandal: Steinhoff-Konzern-Skandal: Angeklagter legt Geständnis ab | ZEIT ONLINE
Hier finden Sie Informationen zu dem Thema „Bilanzskandal“. Lesen Sie jetzt „Steinhoff-Konzern-Skandal: Angeklagter legt Geständnis ab“.

20.02.24 11:34

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyeJean Pierre Verster explains how he knew Steinhoff

20.02.24 11:51

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyeEine Steinhoff-Tochter...

Discounter Pepco verlässt den österreichischen Markt...

Quelle @  

26.02.24 18:38

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyePEPKOR Capital Markets Conference...

27.02.24 09:46

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyePepkor Sets Sights on Expansion

29.02.24 09:23

4220 Postings, 1408 Tage SquideyePepkor to offload building retail chain for R1.2bn

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