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20.08.15 18:44

115 Postings, 2805 Tage LOGAN5Bombardier

Heute endlich mal gute Nachrichten von der Front:
80% der Zulassungsarbeit für das neue Flugzeug der C Serie sind erledigt!Die erste Auslieferung an SWISS kann somit in der ersten Jahreshälfte erfolgen.
Ausserdem wurde bekannt das das Flugzeug  eine größere maximale Reichweite hat als ursprünglich geplant; 6112 KM (+648 geplant)

21.08.15 11:37

35 Postings, 3365 Tage Oris71hab ich

etwas mit den Augen oder steigt der Kurs ?  

Seit ich bei 1,80 eingestiegen bin kenne ich eigentlich nur eine Richtung nämlich abwärts und    JA    ich habe immer fleissig nachgekauft.


21.08.15 17:59

1359 Postings, 3338 Tage sensigo2Bombardie

Die Verkaufswelle ist beendet.
Der Kurs wird sich wieder im Normalbereich Einpendeln.
Ich warte trotzdem noch ab mir den Nachkäufen.

21.08.15 19:11

342 Postings, 3468 Tage Joghurtbecher1Naja naja

Also wir haben hier 60% verloren wärend die Märkte in nie dagewesene Höhen gestiegen sind. Jetzt als Pennystock von Stärke zu sprechen bei Seitwärtsbewegung für 2 Tage wenn der Markt mal bisschen konsolidiert ist ein bisschen euphemistisch finde ich :)  

22.08.15 13:41

115 Postings, 2805 Tage LOGAN5BOMBARDIER


Bombardier Inc. bondholders are feeling the pain from the company’s accelerating cash consumption.

The cost to protect Bombardier bonds from default more than doubled since June 30, soaring the most among members of Canada’s benchmark Standard & Poor’s/TSX Composite Index. Investor unease also is showing up in prices for the 7.5 percent notes due in 2025: Five months after being issued, they’re yielding 13.4 percent.

Blame Bombardier’s history of unwelcome surprises with tardy planes. The company burned through almost twice as much cash in the second quarter as it did in the same period a year earlier, signaling that it’s still struggling with delays on its new CSeries, its largest-ever jetliner. It also postponed its Global 7000 long-range business jet for two years, triggering a trio of credit-rating cuts.

“They’re burning cash and it’s a problem,” said Jack Flaherty, a fund manager in New York at GAM USA Inc., which manages about $17 billion. “The market has been correct in treating it the way they have, widening the spread and showing concern. The fundamentals weren’t there.”

Flaherty said his firm sold its Bombardier bonds about five months ago, following “a further delay in the CSeries,” after holding them for around three years.
Stock Tumbles

The developments add to the strain on Montreal-based Bombardier, whose stock has tumbled to an almost 25-year low amid more than two years of cost overruns and sales struggles for the CSeries, the suspension of the Learjet 85 program and the cutback in output of the Global 5000 and 6000 corporate aircraft. They also heighten the need for the company to proceed with a planned initial public offering of its train unit by the end of 2015.

Chief Executive Officer Alain Bellemare, who took over in February with a mandate to restore profitability, isn’t wasting time. After hiring new executives and raising about $3 billion in debt and equity, the new CEO introduced a “transformation plan” aimed at reducing costs and increasing cash generation through such means as improved coordination with suppliers and better control of working capital.

Bellemare didn’t provide financial details of the plan when he discussed quarterly results on a July 30 call with analysts.

Bombardier had $3.1 billion of cash and cash equivalents and about $9 billion of long-term debt as of June 30. The company doesn’t have material maturities before 2018, when $1.4 billion of debt will mature.
Credit Cuts

Fitch Ratings on Aug. 13 became the third U.S. bond-grading company this month to cut Bombardier’s junk credit, citing its expectation that cash flow will remain “significantly negative” through 2017.

Bombardier used $808 million of free cash flow in the second quarter, almost double the $424 million used in the same period a year ago, it said July 30. At $1.6 billion, Bombardier’s first-half cash usage exceeds the five-year average of $1.2 billion, Bloomberg data show. S&P expects Bombardier to generate negative free cash flow through 2017, analyst Jamie Koutsoukis wrote in a report published Aug. 12.

That trend may put the company’s goal of holding at least $2 billion in cash at risk, according to Joel Levington, a Bloomberg Intelligence analyst in New York. Moody’s estimates the cash balance may fall to $2 billion by September 2016, according to an Aug. 6 report.
‘Perfect Storm’

The cost to protect Bombardier’s debt from default within five years jumped to an equivalent of 1,309 basis points on Wednesday, according to data provider CMA, which is owned by McGraw Hill Financial and compiles prices quoted by dealers in the privately negotiated market. That’s the highest on record.

“It’s a perfect storm,” Evan Mann, a credit analyst at Gimme Credit Publications Inc., said by telephone from Livingston, New Jersey. “They have liquidity to 2016 but if cash burn doesn’t improve nicely, it’s possible they’ll need to raise debt in 2017. Now that they have the downgrade the cost of borrowing goes up so it all feeds on itself.”

When factoring in expected cash flows and various initiatives such as the
planned rail IPO, Bombardier will be able to develop new products and
meet financial requirements “for the foreseeable future,” the company wrote July 30 in a quarterly filing.

Bombardier isn’t commenting beyond what executives said on the July 30
conference call, said Isabelle Rondeau, a spokeswoman.

The planned rail IPO may take place in the fourth quarter, Bellemare said on the call. The listing will probably be in Germany, where the Bombardier Transportation unit is based.
‘High Risk’

Following through with the train unit IPO may generate proceeds of $1 billion or more, Fitch analyst Eric Ause said in an Aug. 13 report. The transaction “would help liquidity but would not address free cash-flow concerns,” he said.

That gloom probably would lessen if Bombardier can get the CSeries into service by its latest target, 2016, amid development costs ballooning more than $2 billion to $5.4 billion. While Bellemare said July 30 he sees “renewed interest” as flight tests progress, the 243 firm purchases still trail the goal of 300 by the CSeries’ scheduled commercial debut.

Gimme Credit’s Mann said this week the time line has a “high risk” of slipping, which would add to doubts about an aircraft with an 11-month firm order drought.

“People need to see more new orders for the CSeries,” Jens Houe Thomsen, a credit analyst at Jyske Bank A/S, who advises investors to sell Bombardier bonds, said by telephone from Silkeborg, Denmark. “There’s a big chunk of development costs on that program. Getting new customers will be key.”

(For Canada Credit news alerts, see SALT CACREDIT.)


23.08.15 11:28

7239 Postings, 4898 Tage sebestieEin geiles Flugzeug

24.08.15 17:38

231 Postings, 2904 Tage der schrecklichedie 0,50c kommen näher!

24.08.15 19:12

1486 Postings, 3611 Tage fertigerfertiger€-Cent werden auf jeden Fall sehr schnell da sein!

27.08.15 07:33

336 Postings, 3303 Tage MartolusIch denke bzw hoffe

dass wir die Tiefststände bereits gesehen haben!
Wenn der Vogel endlich mal ausgeliefert wird und Ruhe reinkommt könnte ich mir Kurse von 1,50-2,00€ locker vorstellen ...  

27.08.15 12:02

1359 Postings, 3338 Tage sensigo2Bombardier

Nachkäufe  beendet.
Hier sind schnelle  100% und mehr drin.

27.08.15 12:14

26410 Postings, 3402 Tage Galearismiassat Boom-a-Cheap heissen, ned Bomb-a-Dear

27.08.15 13:16

525 Postings, 2972 Tage Konny11sensigo2 100% Gewinn oder Verlust

Das ist hier die Frage !!!  

27.08.15 19:02

1359 Postings, 3338 Tage sensigo2Konny

finde es selber heraus.

31.08.15 08:41

956 Postings, 3348 Tage buzzlerJungs... bleiben, noch ist es nicht an der Zeit hier zu zugreifen.

1.) Noch ist keines der neuen Flieger ausgeliefert und das wird auch in den nächsten Monaten NICHT passieren.
2.) Es ist unklar wie lukrativ die Abspaltung sein wird...
3.) Befinden wir uns in einem schon "idealen" Abwärtstrend seit Ende Juni, Anfang Juli. Hier rein zu kaufen gibt höchstwahrscheinlich noch sehr lange blutige Finger.

Ich warte zumindest auf den Ausbruch aus dem Abwärtskanal und einer guten Nachricht zu mind. 1. oder 2.).  

31.08.15 16:42

168 Postings, 2950 Tage stksat|228816002nach dem Warten

wird der Kurs bei 2,50 Dollar sein =). EIn Weltunternehmen mit perfekter Strategie und Ausführung im Bereich der Transportbranche wird die C-Series ohne Probleme zum Laufen bringen!!!

wir hören uns in ein paar Jahren wieder bei zumindest 3 DOllar!!!  

03.09.15 17:25

2092 Postings, 3127 Tage hclsf87in ein paar Jahren sicher - evtl. viel früher!

im Moment sind noch zu viele Unwegbarkeiten on board. Langfristig glaube ich auch an "satte Gewinne".  

03.09.15 18:16

115 Postings, 2805 Tage LOGAN5BOMBARDIER


BERLIN, GERMANY, Sep 02, 2015 (Marketwired via COMTEX) -- Rail technology leader Bombardier Transportation announced today that its Chinese joint venture, Bombardier Sifang (Qingdao) Transportation Ltd. (BST), has been awarded a contract with China Railway Corp. (CRC) to supply 15 CRH380D very high speed trains for the country's rapidly growing high speed network. The contract for 15 eight-car trainsets is valued at approximately 2.4 billion Chinese RMBs ($ 381 million US, 339 million euro).

Bombardier owns 50% of the shares in BST, which is consolidated by Bombardier Transportation's partner CSR Sifang Rolling Stock Co., Ltd. Based on previous orders, BST started delivering its newest generation high speed train CRH380D in the first quarter of 2015. This early follow on order shows the confidence of China Railways in BST's leading high tech product.

Jianwei Zhang, President of Bombardier China said, "China now has the world's longest operational track mileage and largest number of high speed trains. This market represents a tremendous opportunity where we have been successful by offering innovative and highly reliable products. Bombardier is very proud to be involved in China's new high speed railway age by delivering leading edge, very high speed rail equipment through Chinese joint venture expertise and resources. We are confident to deliver more next-generation rail equipment with the most advanced rail technology for China from within China."

The new trainsets will be an integral part of an evolving high speed rail capability in China. With a maximum operating speed of 380 km/h, the CRH380D is a new generation high speed electric multiple units developed by BST. It is powered by BOMBARDIER ECO4 technology and a highly efficient BOMBARDIER MITRAC propulsion and control system, both supplied by a separate Bombardier Chinese joint venture, Bombardier CPC Propulsion System Co., Ltd. (BCP).

The CRH380D EMU consists of eight aluminum carbody cars and is equipped with VIP seats, first class seats, second class seats and a dining car. The trainsets will be manufactured at Bombardier Sifang (Qingdao) Transportation production facilities in Qingdao, China. Engineering will take place in Qingdao and at Bombardier centers in Europe with project management and components provided from sites in Europe and China.


09.09.15 16:02

336 Postings, 3303 Tage MartolusExplosion!

flieg Bombardier. Flieeeeeg!
Sie kann es ja doch noch :).  

09.09.15 16:05

7239 Postings, 4898 Tage sebestieDie Zugsparte wird man nicht an die Chinesen

Stattdessen sollen 20-30% an die Börse gebracht werden.
Mal schauen wie es hier weiter geht.  

09.09.15 19:50

1359 Postings, 3338 Tage sensigo2Konny

jetzt kann ich es dir sagen.
min.200% noch in diesen Jahr

10.09.15 14:01

318 Postings, 3765 Tage Mr.CoolWo könnte der Kurs jetzt hin maschairen????

Jahreshoch villeicht wieder ???
Habe jetzt auch investiert.  

10.09.15 16:17

336 Postings, 3303 Tage MartolusIch denke 1,80€ sind realisierbar

10.09.15 21:20

168 Postings, 2950 Tage stksat|228816002wo sind die Schwarzmaler?

Schönen Gruß an alle die bei 0,70 ausgestiegen sind =)=)=)

Bombardier GO !!!!  

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